Mic.com spoke to CCLP senior fellow Dan Glickman about his role as President Bill Clinton’s handpicked “designated survivor” of the State of the Union address in 1997, when he was Secretary of Agriculture.

“Here I was just a few minutes earlier, almost the most powerful person in the country, and now I couldn’t even get a cab,” said Glickman. “There’s a great lesson there in the impermanence of power.”